不以规矩，不能成方圆
bù yǐ guī ju , bù néng chéng fāng yuán
without rules, nothing can be done (idiom, from Mencius); one must follow some rules
bù yǐ guī ju , bù néng chéng fāng yuán
without rules, nothing can be done (idiom, from Mencius); one must follow some rules